GUS Daily Digest Tue, 4 Apr 95 9:37 PST Volume 21: Issue 4 Today's Topics: ADPCM-Question Atari Action Pack Disappointed w/ GUS & support. Full Throttle GUS, Win95 and KQ7 GUS Daily Digest V21 #2 GUS Daily Digest V21 #3 GUS MAX and OS/2 WARP Magic carpet and GUS MegaEM 3.03b Need help with CDROM, GUS, and WIndows No MIDI in Windows - No sounds for Dark Forces. RESEND: New Warcraft Patch Availble SB16 + GUS + MIDI keyboard in Windows = Lock-Up!!! Standard Info: - Meta-info about the GUS can be found at the end of the Digest. - Before you ask a question, please READ THE FAQ. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 4 Apr 1995 10:27:11 +0200 (MET DST) From: Peter Feldbaumer Subject: ADPCM-Question As far as I remember VFW does install same kind of new soundrec.exe. The main difference to the old one (the original from windows 3.1(1)) is that it supports the ACM (audio compression manager). So you can record and play back sound with ADPCM (or any other kind of installed compression algorithm). What I don`t know is, if gravis' GUS-Max installs drivers that do support the hardware compression (using the CODEC-chip). Anyway, software just works fine ! If your SoundRec.exe doesn't allow you to choose any compression (in the file-new dialog) try looking at FTP.MICROSOFT.COM, somewhere in a developer-directory is this utility. By the way, there is also VFW1.1e! (don't know if it's any better) # Peter Feldbaumer alias field@sbox.tu-graz.ac.at # ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Apr 1995 19:01:33 -0400 (EDT) From: Tommy Lee Subject: Atari Action Pack Has anyone managed to get the sounds working properly with this thing? What I get are digital sounds that sometimes get cut off, or don't play at all. I think the program is also supposed to mix multiple fx channels, but this doesn't work either. Tommy. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Apr 1995 18:51:27 EST From: "Carl" Subject: Disappointed w/ GUS & support. I have a Gravis Ultrasound MAX and an SB-PRO in my 486dx2/66 computer... Yesterday I was messing around with a few of my games to see how each card sounded. I was expecting to laugh at the SB-PRO and get a warm, fuzzy feeling from my far superior GUS. NOPE. These are the games I've tried and the results. I am referring to the digital effects on both cards, not music. Dark Forces SB-PRO Runs FASTER, sounds about the same or better. Doom v1.666 Same as above Doom II v1.666 Same as above Heretic SB-PRO Runs FASTER, sounds MUCH better than GUS. Doom v1.2 GUS runs FASTER, and sounds better. Gee what an upgrade DOOM v1.666 is eh? Umm, as you might have guessed, I am extremely disappointed. The conclusion is of course, the GUS is NOT being supported correctly. Instead of taking advantage of the unique abilities of the GUS, it is basically being treated as a Sound Blaster! The samples are being mixed via software, and fed to the GUS, instead of preloading the samples in the GUS RAM, and just triggering them. If they were doing the second method, not only would it sound better than SB, it would be MUCH faster. Doom v1.2 demonstrates this. I set all these games to use GUS as MIDI and Sound Blaster for the digital effects. So basically what I'm getting out of the GUS for games is a crappy MIDI board. We all know it is not, though. Any chance these sound coders will start using the CODEC in the GUS- MAX to speed up the lame method they are using? Or how about using the GUS how it's supposed to be used? Also, why does Dark Forces disable the line-in on my GUS? If it wasn't for the awesome trackers out there that support the GUS, I would SCRAP this card in a second, and get an AWE32 or something. -- Carl Mueller cRaNeScUrEpJhArVeY WSU Detroit, Michigan :P Bart: Akira, my good man, when do we break blocks of ice with our heads? Akira: First, you must fill your head with wisdom, then you can hit ice with it. -- Karate school, "When Flanders Failed" [7f23] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 04 Apr 1995 10:12:35 +0100 (CET) From: R.Wielink@hi.ft.HSE.NL Subject: Full Throttle Hi, I've got a demo-version of the new LucasArts adventure Full Throttle. Looks great ! And sounds.... well, it doesn't... No Gus support included. :( Does anyone know if the release version will contain GUS support ? I sure hope so. It just looks great. When I find the E-mail address of LucasArts I send them a message that I won't buy their game if it hasn't GUS-support. It would be a shame. I really like their adventure games. By the way, the new megaem doesn't work for me in this case (and most other cases). I've got a pre-v3.xx release board. :( Greets, Robert Wielink R.Wielink@hi.ft.hse.nl ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 02 Apr 1995 22:04:13 +0200 From: "Jerry van Waardenberg" Subject: GUS, Win95 and KQ7 Hi, Has anyone got Kings Quest VII working with the GUS in Windows 95? The GUS works fine in Windows 95 (with both the 5.47 and 5.50 drivers). The hardware test of KQ7 gives no problems either; everything checks out fine (digital and MIDI sound). But when starting the game, I get all sorts of 'MMMxxxx' errors and finally I get a 'program performed a illegal operation'- message. After that, the system crashes and I have to press the reset button. So can anyone give me some info about this? Thanx in advance. Greetz, Jerry -- -----------------------------------------------------. | Jerry van Waardenberg -=- Voice: +31-(0)5476-2041 | | jerry@waard.iaf.nl -=- Fidonet: 2:283/726.9 | `---------------=- PGP-key available -=---------------' ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Apr 95 22:53 BST-1 From: haydn@cix.compulink.co.uk (Haydn Evans) Subject: Re: GUS Daily Digest V21 #2 In-Reply-To: <199504021707.KAA19204@gaia.ucs.orst.edu> >From: pbleile@chat.carleton.ca (Pierre Bleile) >Subject: Amiga files, New mega-em >Don't know 'bout CROSS DOS or whatever, but why bother? Just >fire your modem or null modem and transfer the data. That is indeed a good method but due to (various) circumstances it may not be possible for everyone wishing to convert files to be able to physically connect both machines together. The original poster had a CD32 and a PC. I did not think he had the capability to link the two machines, although I may have been wrong. ]-[aydn ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Apr 1995 15:37:36 +0100 (BST) From: gould@cs.bris.ac.uk Subject: Re: GUS Daily Digest V21 #3 > > > Instead of whining about how bad the beta Megaem is, why don't we get > > > off our arses and beta-test the sucker? > > > > Because 'bout 50-60% of gussers does NOT have a GUS 3.xx or a Gus Max, > > get it? > > You don't need a GUSMAX to use the new megaem, it runs just as well without, > maybe you're thinking of MAXSBOS. Even MaxSBOS works on my Ultrasound (newish). > All the people who a whining about the new mega-em must have taken > the time to test it, get it. And about the size of the whining i thinkg > a lot of people tried it. So all whining is good whining NOT?? You have weird logic, my friend. The driver is a BETA. It is released so that maybe we can beta-test it. If we get all the bugs ironed out, then the Ultrasound will be compatible with 99% of games and have much better sound than the Creative efforts. Surely this is what we want? Not all major games producers are writing Ultrasound drivers, hence MegaEm is a VERY important product. CUL8R, Dave. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Apr 95 19:12:48 EDT From: Ryan Andrew Schutt Subject: GUS MAX and OS/2 WARP I am a happy GUS MAX (1 meg) owner, and I am considering installing OS/2 WARP on my system. How well does warp run with the gus max? Will I be able to use scream tracker 3.21 under os/2 without any problems? Do windows 3.11 midi programs work under warp+gus max? BTW I have a Zeos Pantera/90. Please reply at rschutt@pen.k12.va.us Thanks ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Apr 1995 19:00:04 +0100 From: emilr@ksnet.ksedb.no (Emil Rakoczy) Subject: Magic carpet and GUS SFX and Music on Magic Carpet. How? Please mail me. thanks? (Heia Erling.) Emil R, Norway. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Apr 1995 17:11:31 +0100 From: Samuel Audet Subject: MegaEM 3.03b > As for the gus version number, maybe GRAVIS should offer a cheap > upgrade and they can recycle the 2.xx or sell them off for scrap. Ya, they should support the peoples who trust them first! > Then don't bitch to us about it, why should we care? If you don't > need it, great > so what? Don't use it. No worries. Hakuna Matata. Well... maybe I have some then... lets see, Magic Carpet, maybe? But I can't see anything else. But I always to have all trumps in my hand (does this expression makes sense ?!? sorry, I'm Quebecois... eee well, French-Canadian if you don't know where is Quebec :) Bye! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Apr 95 11:26:02 CDT From: schumgl@anubis.network.com (Gary L. Schumacher) Subject: Need help with CDROM, GUS, and WIndows I have just installed a Toshiba 5302B CD-ROM in my PC and have cabled the audio out from the CD-ROM to JP7 on my GUS. I can now play audio CDs while I am in DOS! The CD-ROM/GUS combination works fine for all of the Windows multimedia programs that I have tried. The only question that I have is how can I play audio CDs when I am in Windows? I have tried to use A-B-CD but it doesn't see the CD-ROM. Also what do I have to do to the GUS for the audio pass through while in windows? Any help can be sent to mailing list or directly e-mailed to me at schumgl@network.com Thanks Gary Schumacher ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 03 Apr 95 14:18:03 CST From: "Mai, DongKinh" Subject: No MIDI in Windows - No sounds for Dark Forces. A friend of mine also has problems getting MIDI to work in windows. He had the 2.0x version of the software and decided to upgrade to the 3.5x software, and could get NO MIDI, WAVs play OK. DOS MIDI and WAVs work. We even checked the ULTRASND.INI (only 1 on the hard drive). So he went back and reinstalled the old version 2.0x (?) of the software and everything works. The reason he tried to upgrade was that he gets no sounds or music in Dark Forces. The setup recognizes digital sounds, but doesn't play any music. When he starts DF no sounds work at all. He has one of those motherboards that gives him a parity error with 16-bit DMAs when using the GUS. If you can help, email him at 'elee@hsc.usc.edu' or post to this digest. Thanks, Dong-Kinh ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Date: Sun, 2 Apr 1995 13:27:42 +0100 From: ct91@cityscape.co.uk (Damian Scully) Subject: Re: GUS in Windows help. When I wrote in asking about having no midi device in windows, someone replied with: >Have you tried the MIDI Drivers option in Recording Session and set it to >Extended-level setup? Also, do you get a "start up" sound when you enter >Windows? If you do, you probably just haven't set the MIDI drivers option in >Recording session. If you DON'T get a start-up sound, try checking your Midi >Mapper applet under the control panel, as well as the Drivers applet and make >sure the GUS stuff is there. If not, I'd try re-installing the GUS software. I do get startup sounds, and I can play mod, mid, wav files or whatever. When I look at the driver list in the control panel the Ultrasound drivers are there, and they are also there in the Sound Mapper, but when I check the Midi mapper the old Gamewave files are there, and I can't seem to be able to change them to the GUS. I also tried what you mentioned about the setup in Recording session but that did'nt work either. Thanks for the advice anyway. Maybe someone else can help me? Damian. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Apr 1995 15:48:16 -0700 From: Scott.Jordahl@Eng.Sun.COM (Scott A. Jordahl) Subject: RESEND: New Warcraft Patch Availble I sent this posting last Friday, but for some reason it never made it into the digest. Here it is again.................... I have uploaded the latest Warcraft patch (v1.21) to epas. This version fixes GUS support that was broken in the v1.20 patch release. This patch will work for both the CD and floppy versions of Warcraft. Along with bug fixes, the patch contains a readme with cheat codes and it also comes with a game editor. It definitly is worth getting!! The file is called warcr121.zip. Unzip it in your warcraft directory and type "go". You will be instructed from there. -- Scott |=|=|=|=|=| Scott A. Jordahl - SMCC |=|=|=|=|=| |==|=|=|==| Sun Microsystems - Menlo Park, CA |==|=|=|==| |=|=|=|=|=| VOICE: [415] 786-7319 |=|=|=|=|=| |==|=|=|==| INTERNET: scottj@Eng.Sun.COM |==|=|=|==| If you give a man a fish, he'll fish for a day. If you teach a man to fish, he'll fish for a life time.... .. And he'll live for a life time. -- Dan Quayle 10/13/92 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Apr 1995 14:53:24 -0300 From: j5oa@jupiter.sun.csd.unb.ca (Craig Galbraith) Subject: SB16 + GUS + MIDI keyboard in Windows = Lock-Up!!! I had recently been trying to get the GUS and the SB16 to live together in the same machine. I succeeded with much help from other Netters. I can use the GUS for MIDI music and the SB16 for sound effect and speech for most of my games. I can even use the two together in Windows. I can record my GUS's MIDI music to an SB16 WAV file. No probs there anymore. Now, I tried to hook up my Roland PC-200mkII MIDI controller keyboard after having put it away for a while to get other things set up right. I thought for sure that it wouldn't give me any problems. BUT...when in Windows, simply touching a key while the keyboard is on and plugged in the GUS locks up Windows but good! I can't reboot. I have to turn the whole thing right off. I can use the keyboard in DOS though. It's just Windows that gives me the problems. Maybe I did something in one of my .INI files? I dunno. I have the cards set as: SB16 220(address)5(IRQ) 1(lowDMA) 5(highDMA) 300(MIDIport) t6 GUS 210(address) 7(playDMA) 7(recordDMA) 11(GF1IRQ) 7(MIDI/SB IRQ) What could the problem be? INIs? Hardware setups? Conflicts? Software setups? Conflicts? Moon misaligned with Jupiter? Any help would be absolutely, gratefully, positively, enormously, spam, truly, most extraordinarily appreciated. Craig Galbraith ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ |~ | | (~ |_| _ _ _ _ ____ Craig Galbraith | |_/ _) | | | | | | | \| | | ) j5oa@jupiter.sun.csd.unb.ca | |_| | | |\ | | SAINT JOHN 3rd Year Biology \___/ |_| |_| |____) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Apr 1995 20:56:38 +0800 (HKT) From: Eddie Tom list ------------------------------ End of GUS Daily Digest V21 #4 ****************************** To post to tomorrow's digest: To (un)subscribe or get help: To contact a human (last resort): FTP Sites Archive Directories --------- ------------------- Main N.American Site: ftp.orst.edu pub/packages/gravis wuarchive.wustl.edu systems/ibmpc/ultrasound Main Asian Site: nctuccca.edu.tw PC/ultrasound Main European Site: src.doc.ic.ac.uk packages/ultrasound Main Australian Site: ftp.mpx.com.au /ultrasound/general /ultrasound/submit South African Site: ftp.sun.ac.za /pub/packages/ultrasound Submissions: archive.epas.utoronto.ca pub/pc/ultrasound/submit Newly Validated Files: archive.epas.utoronto.ca pub/pc/ultrasound Mirrors: garbo.uwasa.fi mirror/ultrasound ftp.st.nepean.uws.edu.au pc/ultrasound ftp.luth.se pub/msdos/ultrasound Gopher Sites Menu directory ------------ -------------- Main Site: src.doc.ic.ac.uk packages/ultrasound WWW Pages --------- Main Site: http://www.xmission.com/~grue/gus.html Main European Site: http://src.doc.ic.ac.uk/packages/ultrasound/ Main Australian Site: http://ftp.mpx.com.au/archive/ultrasound/general/ http://ftp.mpx.com.au/archive/ultrasound/submit/ http://ftp.mpx.com.au/gravis.html Mirrors: http://www.st.nepean.uws.edu.au/pub/pc/ultrasound/ GUS digest: http://gpu.srv.ualberta.ca/~itam/digest.html MailServer For Archive Access: Email to Email to New Submit Files Mailing List: Email to with content "subscribe epas-list " Hints: - Get the FAQ from the FTP sites or the request server. - Mail to for info about other GUS related mailing lists (programmers, musicians, etc.).